Thursday, February 9, 2012

A Perfect Storm

By now, you have probably seen the footage of the dog rescued from the reservoir on Tuesday. It was a very happy ending for an unfortunate circumstance caused by the dog’s owner. Max, a Dogo Argentino (Argentine Mastiff), was probably out for an afternoon walk and Michael Robinson, Max’s owner let him off leash *hoping* he would stay close. Clearly, Max had not been taught a 100% solid recall, so Max didn’t listen to Michael calling him when he spotted a coyote. Max chased the coyote on to the ice and they both fell through. After several minutes, the coyote drowned, but firefighters arrived just in time to inch their way out on to the ice to save Max. Max was very happy to see the firefighter (you can see from the video) as he swam directly toward his rescuer in a desperate attempt to get out of the freezing water. The firefighter risked his life to save Max, and it cost taxpayers thousands of dollars, I’m sure. This entire scenario, and the death of a coyote, could have been entirely prevented had Max’s owner kept him on the leash, and not *hoped* he would listen. In my opinion, this was an extremely stupid and narcissistic decision on Michael’s part. Max should never have been off leash, especially since he wasn’t up to date on his vaccinations. On a side note, a dog actually did drown on Wednesday (the day after Max’s rescue) because another foolish owner let their dog off leash without a 100% solidly trained recall, with distractions. Aren’t we supposed to keep our dogs from harm and be their advocate and voice? When I saw the footage I was so angry. And, later I found out, instead of taking Max directly to the vet, Michael brought Max home and invited camera crews inside to film him. How does this make sense?

Fast forward to Wednesday morning. I sat down to check my email and have a cup of coffee with 9News on, my morning ritual. I hear that an upcoming segment will have the dog who was rescued from the reservoir LIVE in studio to reunite him with his rescuer. The first thing I thought was “What? This dog has just been rescued from almost dying 12 hours ago, and now he’s going to be in the studio instead of sleeping in?” I had a bad feeling from that moment. I knew Max had to be recovering from trauma, and was probably very tired and stressed from swimming to save his life for an hour, and it probably wouldn’t go well. I never expected what I saw next.

Before I go any further, let me say that I have watched Kyle Dyer since I moved to Denver in 2001. I have met her in studio, we have talked about dogs when I have been there for interviews, and she even interviewed me once for a story. It is extremely evident how much she loves animals. She does stories from the Zoo, and she is has been a passionate advocate for them. She would never put a dog in jeopardy.  I really like her, and she is always happy and upbeat.  She just lights up when you talk to her.  The last time I was in studio, she was sitting behind the news desk and asked me for my card for her own dog during commerical.  I can't remember what the issue was, but it was very clear that she loved him and probably would have talked my ear off about him if she didnt have to go back on air.  She is lovely!

But, she is just like my clients who call me for help. People love their animals and don’t know that dog body language is very important. So many kids and people are bitten by people who just don’t understand because they love dogs SO much they can’t help but treat them like little kids in fuzzy coats. People hug and kiss dogs all the time. This is how bites happen.

During the interview, Max was very stressed from the start. He was blinking, licking his lips, turning his head…I think he even yawned. It was clear from the get-go that he just wanted to be at home sleeping on his pillow. I also saw Michael, Max’s owner, do a couple of leash tugs to try and get his attention. Guess what happens when a stressed dog gets his leash jerked? Adrenaline and fear. So, Max was already stressed, tired, and giving off every warning sign his body could possibly engage in, and add leash jerks on top of it and he was like a bomb ready to go off. It reminds me of a great blog called ‘Dog Bites are like Tetris’. Aggression, behavior, and bites do not happen out of the blue. They are context- specific and only happen when the context is right. Things build and build and then BOOM. All the while, the dog is trying to tell us “I’m not a threat” “I’m scared and I don’t want you to come any closer” “I’m about to bite you!” This is why people say “My dog is so good 99% percent of the time- He loves everybody! But he bit my uncle, the vet, and the mailman”. Honest to god, I hear this every day. People just don’t understand that dogs don’t want to bite, but they don’t have a choice because we constantly set them up to fail. And then, when they are aggressive we correct them for it, only to increase the likelihood of the dog being aggressive again. Makes absolutely NO sense.

But I digress.

What I saw next on the TV was both terrifying and heartbreaking to watch at the same time. As Kyle got down on her knees, Max started to show his teeth, probably out of fear. He was already adrenalized and all the warning signs he was giving (lip licks, blinking, head turns, whale eye, etc) weren’t working so he growled. Unfortunately, Kyle didn’t hear or see that Max was about to bite. I yelled at the TV screen “Kyle back off!”, not that she could hear me. Then he lunged and bit her lip. This bite was completely predictable and preventable and no one stopped it. It was a Perfect Storm of events that came to a head with disastrous results. It was entirely the humans’ fault (mostly Max’s owner, as he did not advocate for Max one iota to begin with, and certainly not by bringing him on TV 16 hours after being rescued from drowning), not Max’s.

This occurs every day, multiple times a day in homes across the world. I get calls for help daily from parents whose dog bit their child because the child was chasing down the dog and trying to hug her. Or, the person who got bit because they were trying to be ‘dominant’ and Alpha Roll the dog, sending the dog into a defensive outrage trying to protect himself. It is ALL preventable if people would just stop, look, and listen to what their dogs are saying. But people are know-it-alls and continue to set their dog’s up to fail.

And that is why I am writing about this. This entire ordeal must be used as an educational opportunity going forward. People MUST learn that dogs are trying to warn us when they are feeling uncomfortable, but in our hurried ways, with our benevolent attitudes, and narcissist feelings, we don’t even pay attention.

Before I go on, let me say something about the actual bite. If you saw the footage, you will see that Kyle is directly in Max’s face, loving on him and trying to kiss him. Her face is right where his teeth are. Yes, he lunged and bit her, but it was a warning bite. If he had meant to maul her, he would have. He was trying to warn her because every other warning sign he was giving was ignored, so the next step is a snap. It’s the natural progression in dog language, and people don’t see the behaviors. From what I understand, the bite was on Kyle’s lip and she had to have reconstructive surgery. In my professional opinion, it was probably a Level 3 or 4 bite. That is a severe bite, and means he has zero bite inhibition. Not good, but it was a warning bite, not an ‘I’m going to kill you bite”. He didn’t hang on. He didn’t try and rip her face off. At the same time, you have to understand that Max was stressed, tired, traumatized, under lights, around strangers, watching motorized cameras rolling around like robots (they even freak ME out when I am in the studio), and his owner was popping on his leash for whatever reason (clearly a way that he has used in the past to try and ‘train’ Max). Max was stressed beyond belief.

Going forward, I would like everyone to take a step back and think about all the things your dog is trying to tell you. Do away with everything you ‘think’ you know about dogs, everything you have learned from your dogs growing up, and everything you try to do to ‘make’ your dogs listen. Watch and learn because your dog is trying to tell you things every single second. So many people think they know how to train dogs. I assure you, they don’t. Even so-called trainers think they know how to train dogs, yet give hard leash tugs, scruff shakes, and throw things at the dog to startle. When is it going to stop?
Like I said, this was a perfect storm of events that culminated in an awful outcome. Kyle is in the hospital, Max is in quarantine, and people are playing the blame game. Yes, Kyle shouldn’t have been in Max’s face, but why was Max there in the first place? Why was Max off leash at the reservoir, and why didn’t Michael have a reliable recall before he let him off leash? That in itself makes me furious, especially because someone else did it the next day and the dog actually died. Why are people so stupid?

Believe me, I am no saint. I swear like a sailor and I have road rage to rival anyone, but I know you shouldn’t stick a knife in the toaster, that you should treat your neighbor like you want to be treated, that you shouldn’t let your dog off leash near ice and you don’t use leash tugs or force to ‘be dominant’ Duh! (refer to The Myth of Dominance) I know that dogs are emotional beings, and while they deserve our love and kindness, they also deserve our effort to get to know how they communicate with us.

I really hope Kyle is okay, both physically and emotionally. Getting severely bitten is traumatizing, to say the least. I doubt it will decrease her love of animals, and I imagine she will still be a passionate advocate for them, maybe more so. I even imagine she will take this opportunity and educate people on the dangers of stressing a dog out or getting in his space. I hope 9News changes it’s policies regarding animals in the studio. I hope Michael Robinson realizes that his decision to let Max off leash was not in his best interest,  and really tries to do right by him when he gets out of quarantine. And I hope nothing bad happens to Max. According to the Colorado Dog Bite Law, Mr. Robinson is criminally liable for the bite itself, and he was ticketed for having his dog off-leash and no proof of vaccinations or license. He will have to go to court, and a judge will decide Max’s fate. Based on my experience with dog bite cases, it is highly unlikely that Max will be euthanized, and I would be very surprised if that happened. But Michael will be fined a lot of money, have to pay restitution (unless 9News pays for it), will need to get behavioral help for Max, and probably more insurance for him.

I hope, from the bottom of my heart, that this entire incident from start to finish will open everyone’s eyes about what dogs are trying to tell us. I also hope that people will stop thinking that we are better than dogs and they need to be ‘trained’ with leash jerks, neck jabs, shock collars, etc. And I really hope that Max will find peace after his 10 days in jail. This will forever change him, but it doesn’t have to be in vain.

Oh, and please, EVERYONE give your dogs an extra treat and 'I Love You' tonight.  We are very lucky to have such wonderful creatures in our lives and you should never take that for granted. 

Kari Bastyr, MS, VSPDT

© Copyright Wag & Train Animal Behavior Specialists, LLC  2012.  All Rights Reserved

Note:  It was originally reported that Max wasnt current on his vaccinations. According to a recent statement by the Robinson's, that is not true.   
Also, my goal is not to offend, but to educate based on what happened.  My apologies to those who do not appreciate my bluntness.  


K C said...

Kari, this was excellent. Thank you for posting this. I wish more people would "tune-in" to their dogs. We have a pack of 4, 3 being large breed dogs. They are all very different. It's quite funny because most people are afraid of my largest one (Malamute, Bernese Mtn dog mix), but she will put her head down and roll over on her back with her belly exposed for any kiddo in the world.

amy cesario said...

Thank you! Fabulous insight, from a professional. I wish people weren't offended that I don't want to pet and kiss their dogs. I think every dog should be on a leash because I am afraid, but that is just my personal fear, and there are some REAL reasons why they need to be on a leash for their own safety.

Something GOOD can come out of this horrible situation and I think you got is an opportunity to educate and remind people.

mstelter said...

Very well written Kari. Straight forward and honest as usual. People need this information time and again for it to actually soak in.

buchelesk9s -- Ken and Laurie Buchele said...

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I am so sorry this "perfect storm" even had to happen. But thank you for educating the public from such a personal perspective.

Laurie Buchele CPDT-KA, CBCC-KA

Kari Bastyr said...

Thanks for your great feedback! I know it's harsh, but I never beat around the bush when it comes to advocating for dogs, or about aggression. No need to mince words when lives are at stake. I hope people REALLY stop and learn from this, I really do. Please share and let's stay united to continue to educate!

DenverDog said...

Alot to learn from this event and you highlighted it very well. Sad all the way around. Your remark that dogs are constantly telling us something stays with me.

VK said...

just saw the video. Why is she in HIS face! What will happen to Max?

Sillermoon/Fallah said...

I worry that this will give Dogos and other large, powerful mastiff-like breeds a bad name again. Dogo Argentino are so rare in the US and this owner and his two incidents really aren't going to help with the breed's reputation. (Then again I wouldn't want a typical ignorant American pet owner having a Dogo so maybe it all works out).

Our young German Shepherd is quite reactive when leashed or behind a barrier and it has been challenging for us. But I have also learned more about dog body language by owning this dog and learning his signals (and the other dogs nearby) than I did with either of the two previous dogs in my life. I've also realized that many dog lovers are totally clueless about the calming signals and warning signs even if they've owned dogs for 20+ years.

I just hope some of them find blog posts like yours and guide like Sophia Yin's about humans greeting dogs.

Lisa said...

Excellent post Kari,I continue to learn alot about how to train my dog through your website and your teachings.

As you know, Kayden was trained with a shock collar and with a prong collar. Since we have both learned to walk him without and use a harness. You are so very righ about how his behavior has changed.

Now that I KNOW some of what the signs are... I am paying attention to his actions and learning how to communicate better with him.

Thank you so much for this eye opening article and for the education you have provided us in our two sessions. What a huge difference a little change makes.

StripyJules said...

I watched the video of the rescue; Max swims towards his rescuer initially then once on dry land doesn't seem that keen on approaching either of the men on the ice. He looks round warily at them and almost appears to have been "cornered" by the time the video ends. He should never have been put in this situation, nor the TV studio. I feel bad for the lady who was bitten but as Kari says, this was always going to happen...

Linette said...

Excellent article Kari! I am now following your blog. I can see that I will learn a lot from you about animal behavior. Thank you so much!

CT Trainer said...


Thank you for writing this article. I will post a link to it on my Facebook page in a effort to continue to educate people.

HawaiiWahine said...

Kari, Thanks so much for this very educational post. I was upset that the station was making every effort to delete the video from the Internet. As a dog trainer I wanted to study it and look for the stress cues. It took awhile to find a video that was still up.

Your post is very helpful. The station and others should be using you and this footage to educate the public and all dog handlers for what to look for. I understand that this was traumatic for all involved so they wanted it off the air, but it is a teaching tool.

This is a very good reminder. Many of us stop and greet dogs on the street and get down to their level and all goes well. But if stressed any dog might do a discipline/warning bite. When they do it to another dog they usually just get hair and the other dog is warned. But we humans are hairless, thin-skinned creatures and dogs don't always take that into consideration when teaching us how we should act around them. If anyone pets my dog I'm always right there, ready to stop them, if she is uncomfortable and ready to avert her head if she gets scared (she is a rescue who was very reactive when I got her). Being a border collie she is pretty easy to read as her emotions show on her face and in her stance.

I feel badly for all involved. The owner who was happily showing off his dog (though more than agree the dog should have been home recovering and that the owner has a lot to learn, what a start!), Max who was traumatized and hopefully is in quarantine at home (did they say?) and not in some scary kennel and the reporter who just wanted to comfort the dog while little knowing she was scaring him. Hopefully dogs will be better off for this having been made public, as folks will be more careful around them and hopefully more attuned.

Once again, thanks Kari for uploading your insightful

SMMBa said...

What an excellent post.
I would like to propose to the anchorwoman (through you, since you have a professional connection already) to take this opportunity to recognize the mistakes that were made by all the humans involved, and use the video as a teaching tool (like HawaiiWahine said) to EDUCATE the public on stress signals and warning signals that dogs give. What a perfect outcome of something tragic, to use it in a way that can inspire others to learn about dog body language. I personally believe it should be required curriculum in every grade in every school across the country. So many people living with dogs just don't have a clue as to how to read them (or train them). Max was about as clear as he could be in this circumstance.
Maybe Kyle Dyer could create a weekly segment on her network about how to approach dogs, what to do, what not to do, what to look for, etc. She would be the perfect spokesperson--having made the mistake herself, owning up to the mistakes (made by *all*) and learning from it and subsequently sharing what she has learned.

Unknown said...

Thanks for the insight into the situation. I hope a lot of people read your words and learn from them!

Melanie said...

Please, please, please contact Kyle Dyer and offer to 'train' her about what happened and why and ask her to do a segment on TV about it. It would be really helpful for her to understand why this happened and give her the opportunity to support Max's ignored signals.

Thanks for this post but I'm afraid that you're preaching (I mean this in a kind way) to the choir.

sheyla said...

Exellently written post! Too true! Sad that something like this had to happen but we can only hope some lessons are learned from it. Thanks for outlining these lessons so CLEARLY!!!!

Ashlan Belliston said...

This is all so true, & so misunderstood. Thank you for going so into detail, and for bring so blunt. I try to teach ppl this, and for sone reason so many "dog lovers" scoff. Especially when it comes to my border terrier. My pit is more respected, even though he is usually just "talking" or looking to play! But our little dog, who is more anxious and defensive, isnt taken seriously. since she is little ppl seem to think she can't be saying "back off?"

I worry about dogs off-leash not because I am afraid, but because so many dogs in our neighborhood are not socialized, and I fear they will pick fights that my Big Boy wil end. And be blamed for. When he has yet to have ever caused a problem!

It makes me sad to hear things like this. Poor dog just needed to look out for himself! Sinceno one was doing it for him! :( do we know what will happen with him?

doghugger said...

They'll be the next "pit bulls" in the medias continuing demonizing of dogs.

drsolo said...

The term "reconstructive surgery" most likely means that a plastic surgeon will come in to do the stitches rather than an intern. A plastic surgeon can stitch so her lip will heal with close to an invisible scar.

Anonymous said...

So true Keri and straight to the point , i hope max is not punished for this ,i think max should have had a few re-hursals to get use to the surroundings and meet the people he was going to interact with.i hope a lesson it learnt by this incident NEVER take a chance with a strange dog pet from a distance and never kneel in front of a strange dog some may see it as a challenge. DOES NOT MATTER HOW MUCH U KNOW ABOUT DOGS DONT TAKE CHANCES AND THINK BECAUSE A DOG WAGS IT TAIL IT LIKES YOU

Kelly A said...

Thank you so much for posting this article. I have a rescue dog that is fearful/aggressive. He has been great with other dogs and has been afraid of strangers and will snap at someone if they don't listen to his signs. We have done a lot of work with him and he comes to work with me everyday, so he loves all of my coworkers, but it is the strangers on the street that just drive me nuts. Everyone wants to pet him (he's pretty cute, but that's just my biased opinion) and even after I tell them he is fearful and doesn't want to be pet, they all think they are the ONE or the saviour that will be different than everyone else. News flash, they're not. Drives me nuts! I am taking him to a great dog training studio that has been teaching me all of his signs so that I can better listen to how he is feeling in a situation and remove him from the situation before anything escalates. I am his voice and the only thing that can keep him and other people safe. Now, to the people on the street, I just tell them flat out that he might bite them, and then they finally listen and give him the space he needs. I wish I didn't have to, but it is really the only way someone will respect his boundaries. I feel for Max and hope he is better soon.

S F Chapman said...

Well said, for the most part. However, please do not perpetuate the myth of the 100% solid recall. The only 100% solid recall is one performed with the dog's leash attached to an observant guardian. Every dog has some situation in which they will not return immediately when called. We are responsible for assessing the risk of this every time we let our dogs run loose - not just the risk to our dog, but to people and other animals.

Kari Bastyr said...

@SFChapman- That is exactly my point. There is no such thing in the 'real world' (i.e. regular joes with thei family dogs), and people shouldnt be letting their dogs off leash in un-fenced areas. However, I do think there are dogs with 100% recall, especially retrieving breeds. I've seen them. They belong to professional, positive dog trainers who know what they are doing. My chocolate lab is pretty darn close to 100% and I still dont let her off leash. Thanks for your feedback!

PJ Boosinger said...

While I agree that Max's owner is primarily responsible, I think you are letting the studio and Kyle Dyer off much too easily. "She would never put a dog in jeopardy." She would and she did. Studios regularly do these segments with animals so they have an obligation to know something about them. Kyle has "her own dog" and asked you for a card so she KNOWS she needs some training.

Yet she got down on the floor, in his face, one hand forcing his face into hers and chattering away in her happy voice. As someone yapped in her ear with a countdown toward the end of the segment or was off screen giving the countdown, she revved up and pulled Max's face toward her and leaned in for that smooch, for HER photo op. It is Kyle and anyone in the studio who thought this was a good idea that is directly responsible for her injury.

One thing is certain, Max is the innocent victim in all this and yet he is in "jail" now. The media and "authorities" are being wimpy about the charge related to vaccination. What exactly is Max's vaccination history? Has he never been vaccinated or was he merely not wearing a tag on his brand new collar, perhaps because his tag is in the bottom of a frozen lake along with his old collar?

And the failure to leash/control is a total BS charge. While I think Max's owner should have handled things quite differently, the reality is that we cannot control the actions of others, in this case the actions of Kyle. Neither Max nor his owner should be held liable for HER foolish actions.

Another very important issue in this case is the over reaction of authorities, the over charging of owners to bootstrap the taking of animals from owners. While there may indeed be need to isolate Max from others temporarily, it is clear that his owner cares deeply for him (even if he did get caught up in the media circus) and there seems to be no reason to believe he wouldn't comply with home quarantine restriction which would permit Max to begin his recovery from all this. Instead he is further traumatized by being taken from his owner, now handled by strangers in a barren shelter kennel.

Rev Keo said...

Excellent article Kari. You said what needed to be said. Everyone wants their photo op with the adorable dog who just won the show or was rescued or in my case is my service dog. Max was still suffering from a certain amount of PTSD. As a veteran with it, I could read his body language exactly. As a professional trainer, like you, I knew what was coming. Hopefully this will be a chance for education.

Rev. Dr. Kathy Haley CPDT-KA

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hockeybeagle13 said...

Thank you for putting into well-written words what I have been saying since this happened. I initially only saw the 10 seconds before the bite, but i knew if he was acting like that in the minutes leading up to that, there was more than enough reason to change the situation, like get him out of there (not that he should have been there in the first place) I am book-marking this article and also sharing it on facebook to help as many people as I can... Thanks again!

Manilu said...

Kari: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. What a perfect assessment to the end result. I am sharing this with all my dog loving friends. Thank you for posting and saying it SO WELL.

Puddin said...


Meevy said...

I think you are amazing!!

I kind of blame the owner...cuz... although its not his complete fault (since it was really miscommuncation) I feel that he isn't fit to handle a dog like Dogo Argentino. They are powerful, fabulous, and amazing dogs but I feel that they should be handled by experienced handlers (AKA I know doggy language and how to watch out for signs). The fact that he let the dog off leash "hoping" he would have good that is just silly. When I baby sit dogs, I make sure they are never off leash because I don't know if they have good recall and I'd rather not find out in an open neighborhood area. Thanks for your insight and its really is unfortunate people take offense from you. I mean, sometimes teh truth hurts but it'll prevent situations like this.

I felt like the handler was irresponsible in 1.) getting a dog of this strength and power without realizing his OWN limited capabilities (AKA he's not experienced enough to have a dog of this strength)
2.) not letting his dog rest after such a terrible incident. If he MUST do an interview, he should have done it by himself and let the dog rest at home OR (not my favorite option) do a home interview but let the dog be in his crate/ or bed (somewhere where he feels safe) and just let him sleep while you do a quiet interview.

3.) Not seeing the signs of his dog being stressed out. When my dog is stressed, I KNOW. I can not only see it in his body language, but I can also feel it.

again, this...has turned into a really long comment. XD not my intention. Anyway, great blog post! :)

rodnjo1228 said...

oh my gosh best article it, we have a red
nose pit and we are so overly protective of him, for mostly his own well being, we would never have let him off the leash in a common area, and he has had obedience training, because it only takes one idiot to ruin it for the rest of us

Karen M said...

Excellent article, Kari! I learned so much from you regarding dog behaviors. I still cringe when I see the is very upsetting. 9News should hire you as a consultant and be available to go on air regarding animal stories. Is there anything we can do to make sure Max is not put to sleep?

Shawn said...

I accidentally removed my prior comment.
Let me say, this was a very informative post. My heart goes out to Kyle Dyer, her family and her Channel 9 family.
Hopefully we can all learn to tune into our dogs, know the signs of stess so another horrific incident like this can be prevented.

I too put the Number 1 blame on the owner. If Max was leashed, he would not have chased the coyote, they would not have fallen through the ice, the coyote would be alive, $$$ would not have been spent on the rescue and Kyle would not be injured! End of Story!

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K Smith said...
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K Smith said...

oops, messed up last comment

From what I understand, the bite was on Kyle’s lip and she had to have reconstructive surgery. In my professional opinion, it was probably a Level 3 or 4 bite. That is a severe bite, and means he has zero bite inhibition. Not good, but it was a warning bite, not an ‘I’m going to kill you bite”. He didn’t hang on. He didn’t try and rip her face off.

Just wondering if you still feel this way, after seeing the updates on Kyle and the pictures. That was no warning bite. He *did* rip her face off. He ripped off a huge chunk of her lip (where did it go, did he eat it??), that had to be replaced with a chunk from her lower lip. That was easily a level 5 bite, and did he consume that piece of her lip? That would make it a level 6, no?

I am a dog person, I understand dog behavior as much as or more than any non-expert. I didn't see anything that would have made me think he was about to snap. Sometimes it's ok to blame the dog, isn't it? I blame that dog.

K Smith said...

Hmm, I see that a level 5 bite technically means multiple bites/attacks? If so I stand corrected...

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